Is Casting The Most Fun Part of Making a Video?

We got a chance to catch up with Ali el-Gasseir - Casting Director/Associate Creative Director here at Watts to get the scoop on casting.  Here’s what he said.

Q. What path did you take to get your role at Watts?

A. Before I joined the Watts team, I worked as the casting director at the Tony-award-winning Intiman theater. I had done casting for theater, commercial video, and narrative film. It’s something that I have a lot of experience in, and love doing! Casting is a fun exercise of putting a puzzle together. Often times you have a character’s specific needs or characteristic traits, like demographic traits--such as age, race, gender, ethnicity that you are solving for.  But casting isn’t just that…it’s also looking at the actor’s talent level, skill level, experience level and then pairing them with other people in a cast. It’s really an exciting challenge to pair actors in narratives and to find great casts to bring together. I feel that it’s similar to hiring, just more temporary and more narrowly specific. I find it to be really one of the most exciting parts of the process of making content.     

Q. What would you say the difference is between casting for theater and for commercial work like we do here at Watts? 

A. Well, theater is a much longer-term commitment, with much more time in a room together helping actors develop through the work of a director. For commercial or industrial work, you need someone to nail it and be right the first time. You rarely get time to rehearse. Maybe you get to do some sort of walk-through or things like that, but really you need to understand their capabilities and what they’re able to do from the initial read. And then you have to keep in mind how will they look and fit with the rest of the cast. That’s probably the trickiest part of casting for commercial or industrial video. If you’re doing something longer like film you generally do have more time with the actors, but still not as much time as you would have in the theater.  

“For commercial or industrial work, you need someone to nail it and be right the first time.”

Q. What are you looking for when you say “nailing it?”

A. In our business, it’s all about storytelling, right? When casting, I’m trying to bring to our clients exactly what they want to see in their story. Whether that be a representation of exactly who their customer is, who their employee is, or how they envision their brand, that’s what “nailing it” is. It’s really all about pleasing the client’s vision. 

Q. If a client came to you and wanted to create a video, what is the process you would go through to figure out how you’re going to do casting for that? 

A. First, we figure out if it even needs casting. It is very possible that the style or the technique doesn’t require us to utilize the skills of actors. If it does require us to utilize the skills of actors, there’s a lot of logistical legwork that must happen before we really get started on the creative side. That includes asking questions like: What is the usage of the video? What is the [client’s] budget? Answers to these questions determine whether we can use union talent or not, whether we can find talent that has agent representation or if we need non-represented talent. These decisions will affect the quality of the skill and the size of the pool of people we can choose from. This can be especially challenging in Seattle. When I’ve done casting in other places like New York, Los Angeles, or San Francisco, the casting pool is just so much larger. Here, you need to be creative about finding people and using your networks to see who might be out there, and then evaluate how talented they are. 

Q. What would you say is the best way to tap into those networks if you don’t necessarily have a strong foothold in the industry? 

A. If you don’t have a strong foothold in the industry, the answer is about utilizing your personality to meet and talk to people. You’ll find very quickly that you have many connections with the skills and demographics you’re looking for. It becomes about opening your eyes, being personable and chatting with people about what you need. At this point, whenever I meet someone new, I measure whether they might be suitable for on camera acting work. So much of the commercial or industrial content made really doesn’t need someone who has a massive acting resume. The buzzword so often these days is “authenticity” so sometimes all you need is someone who can look at a phone and smile naturally. That doesn’t necessarily require an MFA from Julliard. Now sometimes your turnaround is so fast, or your needs so specific, or maybe you really need some serious acting…well then you should just talk to an agency or casting director. Call an agency around town, tell them your needs and parameters, they’ll work with you and try to find somebody great for you. 

Man leaning on chair talking to woman

Q. Do you have any tips on any technical aspects of casting when it comes to budgeting, working with agencies and the business management side? 

A. You need to be super clear with the client of what the usage is of the video, or of the asset, whatever it may be before you start engaging with an agency or a union. They will have very specific terms to their contract that you will need to be able to understand and work with. Depending on what you’re looking for, you might not need an agency. If you need something more specific and challenging, then you should go through an agency. 

Q. What’s your favorite part about casting?

A. There have been some fun challenges, like I said it’s a puzzle. Sometimes I’ll get a challenge that is really exciting and compelling. For example, here at Watts, on one project we needed to cast a woman who aged throughout the video. So, we needed a child version, a teenage version, and a professional adult version. 

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If you watch this video we did for Microsoft, it makes you go “whoa! She totally could grow up to be that woman!" That was a very fun challenge. I really love any sort of casting challenge. For me it’s the more specific the better! I love the search. Also, it’s very fun to do voice-over casting. There are some very talented voice actors in Seattle because of the need in both the corporate and gaming worlds. Fortunately, there is a lot of voice-over work here.   

Q. Final pro tip?

A. When it comes down to it, I recommend approaching casting like a sports fan approaches their favorite team’s upcoming draft. I think the majority of football fans see the NFL draft as this wonderful moment where their vision is filled with unbridled optimism. Casting can be the same way! You are searching for that perfect person who will play perfectly for you. Go in with an optimistic mindset that you are going to find a total star who is going to really elevate your team and the process can be a lot of fun.

“Go in with an optimistic mindset and casting can be a lot of fun!”

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The Watts Team